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Cole wrote:I know a LOT about this vaccine and influenza in general so if you guys/gals have any specific questions, let me know. For all of you people out there who are "naturalists" and don't want to "put anything foreign in to your body", don't try to be a hero with the H1N1 vaccinations. This is the first time in many of our young lives that we're going to have a flu season with such a high incidence of disease and all the people I've been taking care who are dying of this are young, healthy individuals with no past medical history. The rate of death and serious disease is like regular flu, yes, but there are going to be SIGNIFICANTLY more cases this winter.

LA Bob wrote:Dr. David Williams is a proponent of nutraceuticals and non-invasive treatments for dozens of conditions. He is considered mostly a maverick by the drug companies and Big Med.

His style is demonstrated in his take on the Swine Flu vaccine. Interesting reading!

Old Dad wrote:

Cole wrote:

LA Bob wrote:Voted no because I am 61 and statistically unlikely to suffer from H1N1.

On the other hand, I am getting a regular flu shot as soon as it's available. Even Target and CVS are sold out.

Actually LA Bob that is not completely correct. You not just less likely to suffer from SEVERE H1N1 disease, though technically you are in the higher risk group as we're calling the higher risk group as 19-64. I think in reality though, it's more like 19-50.

I got vaccinated.

I know a LOT about this vaccine and influenza in general so if you guys/gals have any specific questions, let me know. For all of you people out there who are "naturalists" and don't want to "put anything foreign in to your body", don't try to be a hero with the H1N1 vaccinations. This is the first time in many of our young lives that we're going to have a flu season with such a high incidence of disease and all the people I've been taking care who are dying of this are young, healthy individuals with no past medical history. The rate of death and serious disease is like regular flu, yes, but there are going to be SIGNIFICANTLY more cases this winter.

Hi, Doc,

Since you have an inside track on this, I've got a question. One reason for the shortage of vaccine (besides also having to produce it for the seasonal variety as well as H1N1) is that it's produced using 50-year-old technology in which eggs are used as the growing media. I've read that at least three major grants have been given to companies to develop an alternate method using animal tissue.

My question is based on a bit of personal experience from years ago. We had another Bell employee transfer into our office temporarily for a special job. Shortly after he left, he came down with hepatitis and they urged all of us who came into contact with him to go get a shot. I was one of those, so I did. And it resulted in the most MAJOR, SEVERE allergic reaction I've ever had in my whole life!!! I had hives over 1/4" high erupt all over my arms, chest and elsewhere after going to bed that night. What really scared me was that I could NOT breathe!! The Docs in the ER said it was because the insides of my lungs looked just like my arms and legs. They also explained that it was a reaction to the horse serum that was used to produce the vaccine.

Is this likely to happen to people again with a new method of production? Or is the purification process so much improved over what it was 40 years ago that it should be no problem?

Old Dad wrote:

Cole wrote:Hey guys/gals (actually, there haven't been any gals commening here!)

There IS something about the vaccine actually--the adjuvant. The adjuvant (well at least the Canadian one) is made up of water, Vitamin E and squalene oil. It's designed to cause more inflammation at the site to thereby "boost" your immune response. Think of it like a guy yelling in the street getting the attention of the "immune system police". It is proposed the adjuvant will make someone attain full immunity from the vaccine at 8-10d rather than the standard 10-14.

Hi, Doc,

Thanks! But exactly how does that relate to the differences between various injections? Do the more painful ones contain more adjuvant, perhaps?

Cole wrote:Hey guys/gals (actually, there haven't been any gals commening here!)

There IS something about the vaccine actually--the adjuvant. The adjuvant (well at least the Canadian one) is made up of water, Vitamin E and squalene oil. It's designed to cause more inflammation at the site to thereby "boost" your immune response. Think of it like a guy yelling in the street getting the attention of the "immune system police". It is proposed the adjuvant will make someone attain full immunity from the vaccine at 8-10d rather than the standard 10-14.